SIG 4 Page 14 M: I know I do. Well, most of the employees in the credit union stay for a while. We've only recently, only because we've grown, have added new staff. We have people that have worked for us for fifteen years. I'm probably the longest, but Patricia's worked with us for quite some time. I think she said fifteen, almost twenty years. She started when we were over in Human Resources, not the initial little small office, but the second office. She started over there. We've got quite a few. H: Let's shift gears a little bit here. Since you do have a broad span of time here, I wanted to ask you from a woman's perspective, when you first started, were there any women in positions of authority that you can remember? M: Yes. Ethel Camp, she's retired now; she's living in a nursing home. She actually worked in the credit union. She was before me. She left the credit union and she was the head of cottage rentals. Now, that job [belongs to] Nancy Adcock--I gave you her name. She has that job. Of course, the job has changed, tremendously. Back then, what Mrs. Camp did is she made sure that the homeowners had [domestic help]. She would get the domestic help for them. Also, they would come down here in the winter and then they would go back in the summer; they would rent these houses. They would have other homes. Now, of course, the majority of them, I guess, are primary dwellings. Back then, you had two homes. She was in charge of taking all the linens that they used themselves and putting them away and bringing out the rental linens. She was in charge of the maintenance of their houses when they were away. I was trying to think of other people. Now, of course, they have lots of lady department heads. H: But in the executive branch, were there [any women]? M: She was a department head. She was head of the cottage rentals. H: All those things didn't really start changing until the mid 1970s. M: Well, probably because it was housekeeping, don't you think? That was kind of a woman thing? Now, I guess men are head of housekeeping departments. H: Things have changed. The company sounds like they're progressive. Still, it's like a family. Once you're inside, it's just like your brother or your sister. .. M: They definitely promote within. They always have. Like I said, I'm kind of like an outsider looking in to that kind of thing. I know everybody. H: It's an interesting situation because here, you know all the employees, but you're actually not a part of the hospitality end of it, which I guess would be the main