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 that, there was benefits to spreading Western culture and Western society to
 those groups.
K: Well, I think the Spanish people will be quite capable of attending to that chore;
 they're a very rich culture. That's a little bit uppity of us, [to] go over and correct
 the Spanish. [Laughing.]

H: There was an interesting quotation from you, I think it was in the Southern
 School News and I wish that I brought it with me. This might sort of build on
 something that you said earlier, but it was something to the effect that you felt
 segregated schools were necessary for allowing African American culture to
 flourish unimpeded and separate from white Southern culture.

K: Exactly.

H: Can you elaborate on that, please?

K: Sure. As we mentioned awhile ago, compulsory association is not conducive to
 development of culture. It's conducive to the destruction of the culture of the
 integers that you'd forcibly compel to associate with each other. The
 development of black leadership, which we've mentioned before, was parallel
 and part of the course of the development of black culture. In forcing blacks to
 appear at schools and educational activities, we're depriving them of the very
 desirable aim of developing their culture according to black integrities and black
 attitudes. Of course, the "one world" philosophy would say that that was
 inevitable, but the rich European cultures that we have are characterized most
 distinctly and visibly by the fact that Italian painting is one thing and Spanish
 sculpture and painting is another. [The] French, German, Hungarian, Polish,
 Swedish, English, [and] Scottish, are the same way. It's European, but when you
 get down to specific cathedrals, [you have the] English cathedral, French
 cathedral, Spanish [cathedral], and so forth. There's a certain coherence to
 people, and exactly how broad that is, I don't know. There even can be multi-
 peopled [groups] in a way, like the Byzantium culture. It was distinct and
 characteristic, but it had certain elements that seemed to be imported, but not
 really. Where Byzantium stops and Russian begins is sometimes hard to tell. So,
 in the name of a people's integrity, yes, very definitely, the blacks have been
 deprived of the opportunity to develop their own culture in America. By this
 modern development, they were well on their way to doing it, and [they] may still
 get there; I'm not saying they won't. If there could have been a parallel
 development of white and black, I think the results would have been much more
 desirable. There is much of the black idea of art that just does not appeal to
 whites. Think of their music, think of rap artists. Of course, I know there are one
 or two white rappers, but there's always some oddballs around. [Laughing.] Folk
 music today is thought of apparently by a lot of people as being one folk, but it's
 not, [there is] white country folk and black folk. And there's of course a lot of