234 THE PILGRIMS PROGRESS. clutches but God; and that God is so good and loving to man, as to pull him indeed out of this miserable state. ; Prup. What is God’s design in saving of poor men? JoserH. The glorifying of His name, of His grace and justice, etc., and the ever- lasting happiness of His creatures. Prup. Who are they that must be saved? JosEPH. Those that accept of His salvation. Prov. Good boy, Joseph! thy mother hath taught thee well, and thou hast heark- ened to what she has said unto thee. Then said Prudence to Samuel, who was the eldest son but one: Prup. Come, Samuel, are you willing that I should ee you also ? Sam. Yes, forsooth, if you please. Prup. What is heaven ? Sam. A place and state most blessed, because God dwelleth there. Prup. What is hell? Sam. A place and state most woeful, because it is the dwelling-place of sin, the devil and death. Prup. Why wouldst thou go to heaven ? Sam. That I may see God, and serve Him without weariness; that I may see Christ, and love Him everlastingly ; that I may have that fulness of the Holy Spirit in me, that I can by no means here enjoy. Prup. A very good boy, also, and one that has learned well! Then she addressed herself to the eldest, whose name was Matthew; and she said to him, “ Come, Matthew, shall I also catechize you?” Marr. With a very good will. Prup. I ask, then if there was ever anything that had a being antecedent to or before God? Marr. No, for God is eternal; nor is there anything, excepting Himself, that had a being until the beginning of the first day. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is. Prup. What do you think of the Bible? Marr. It is the holy Word of God. Prup. Is there nothing written therein but what you understand ? Marr. Yes, a great deal. Prup. What do you do when you meet with such places therein that you do not understand ?