As regards pre-federal action, the S.C.A.C. has this to say; -
 "Before proceeding to consider the several topics in detail, a. general
 overriding observation should be made and should be borne in mind at all.
 times in the consideration of what follows. The experience of previous
 federations has been that federal services do not fare well in the absence
 of the unifying, sanction of political federation. The history of the Federal
 Council of Australia provides indisputable proof of this fact. The weaknesses
 inherent in embryonic federal structures 'and the, services they seek to
 administer might encourage the false belief that true federation cannot
 improve them and may result; in retarding rather than accelerating a
 federal outlook. On the other hind, if one or two services appear to b~e
 satisfactorily operating on a sub-federal scale, this might encourage a passive
 if not an actively" antagonistic outlook, toward genuine federation. The ideal
 as we envisage it, would be that federation and federal' services should: be--
 concurrent, though, as We shall later submit, this ideal is not always capable
 of practical realization;"

 And this is the reply I give to paragraph 4 of the Civil Service Memorandum.
 The Holmes Commission took their view backed by the Civil Service Association,, -
 but the Rance Commission took the view which I have just read from their report,
 and which is contrary to the opinion held by the former. The Rance Report
_shows that it is a dangerous thing to set up pre-federal services before true
federation is established.
 I therefore beg.to move that :
 WHEREAS the Commission on the Unification of the Public Services have
 stated in their Report their conclusion that "' a unified service. is at best no
 more than a half-way house between separate services for each territory and
 a federal service ", and it is their opinion-that it is an indifferent substitute
 for the latter";
 AND WHEREAS in the Report it is further pointed out that a "Public
 Service Cdmmission will" in the case of such unified service, "have no
 control over the scope of any service that may be unified or the number of
 personnel employed in it-" and that consequently there, will be no assurance
 that any unified'service will be well adapted to the-needs of the unit onwhich
 unification is based, namely t.e -Caribbeanf area;
 AND WHEREAS steps are now being taken to effect early establishment of
 a Federation of the British Caribbean territories, whereby a federal service
 would automatically come into existence;
 S BE .T THCRE- O.LE REiOL'.E -that this.Council is of the opinion that
 unification of tih. PF iilc Services should not be. proceeded -with as a step
 . i,:i'ln; y-,-ti Federation and declines taking further action in connection.
 with such unification. .

 Honouiable Member for Kingstown : Your Honour, Honourable Members of
 Council, I rise to second the emotion moved by the Honourable Member for:North
 Windward. The S.C.A.C. Committee, while endeavouring to. attempt a very
 impartial view, had their doubts as to the intention of the setting up of a Public
 Services Commission. A very large minority believed that the intention was to
 endeavour to thwart the bringing about-of a .West Iliidia Federation, and it was
 the opinion- that lo pre-federal.action, should' be taken;- .. .



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