446 /si/ or /ji/ is usually deleted; according to two speakers in their twenties, forms with initial /ji/ or /si/ sound overly emphatic and old-fashioned, ‘the way old people talk'. The one form that usually has a preposed /si/ or /ji/ in Socca is 3>4 S§. Huancané has /ji/ on 173 S and /j/ alone, optionally, on 2+3 S; /ji/ occurs option- ally on 3>3 RIK also, as in (ji)s.xa.tayn, but is required before -chi NI. Bertonio attests forms with optional initial /i/ (but no /j/ or reduplicated /s/). Like La Paz and Huancané, Jopoqueri usually avoids initial clusters in sa.fia, but does so not by retaining /si/ or /ji/ but by reduplicating the root vowel and re- taining the length before consonant-requiring suffixes beginning with a consonant, e. g. 173 S sa:.t"a 'I said’. In Sitajara, where initial clusters in sa-.fia are more usual, the root vowel of the verb may also sometimes be lengthened. (Vowel length retention, rather than vowel reduplication, occurs in Sitajara in certain other verb roots whose vowel length is analogous to the phoneme sequence /ya/; see 4-3.22.15). Lengthening of the root vowel of sa.fia results in certain forms for the Simple tense which are homo- phonous with RDK in certain persons, namely 1>3, 2>3, 4+3, 1+2, and 3+2. When there is a verbal derivational suffix in the stem, however, it is clear that the length goes with the root, not the inflection. Examples: