FEP 43 Page 27 deadline, I mean something like five or ten minutes. M: [It was] no more than ten minutes. P: So, you immediately sent in your returns. M: Well, here's what happened. It was interesting. Katherine Harris sent us a letter on her letterhead, I forget if it was sent by mail or by fax, but it was a letter signed by her on her letterhead. [The letter said], we will send a representative to DeLand, and this representative has authority to accept your certified results. The date and time of the receipt by our representative in DeLand will be noted on the papers that you hand to our representative, and this will be deemed to be a timely filing in Tallahassee. We had a letter from Katherine Harris to that effect, and sure enough, on the last day of the recount, this very nicely dressed young man came in and he told me who he was. I said, I need to see some identification. He showed me his identification, and I was satisfied that he was who he said he was. The news media wanted to see it, so we had a ceremony of sorts, with all the cameras flashing and all the TV stations filming. I was standing in one location, and directly opposite from me, about five or six feet away, was the secretary of state's representative, and between the two of us, facing all the news media, were the other two members of the canvassing board. I said, are we ready? So, I handed it out and I held it there for about a minute or minute and a half while all of this filming is going on. I said, I'm going to let go now, and he held it. I said, let the record show that the time is, I think it was five minutes before five. P: But you had actually finished a little earlier. You knew you were going to make that deadline. M: I would say by mid-afternoon on the last day we realized we were going to make it, but just barely. P: Of the four counties that were challenged by Gore for recount, you were the only one who got your recount in on time. Could you have done it had you had Vote- a-matic machines, punch card machines, or if there had been [more ballots to count]? Volusia, obviously, is the smallest of the four counties, so you didn't have as many votes to recount. M: I doubt it, because I saw on television hearings of the holes in the IBM cards, dimpled chads, and hanging chads, and pregnant chads. I mean, to me it was ridiculous. P: So, it turns out Deanie Lowe had gotten the county to pay for these optical scan 27