FEP 43 Page 25 conference was, Judge McDermott, did you order those demonstrators removed from this property? I said, yes I did, and here's why. [I said], there's a time and a place for everything. Now, traditionally in this county, the place to make political statements is the steps of the courthouse, and that's the place to which I ordered them removed. I said, secondly, this is not a political event. We are recounting votes that have already been cast, and I'm not going to allow this location to politicized by anybody. And much to my amazement, there was no follow up question to that. They all seemed to accept that, yes, that's the reasonable thing to do. P: One of the things that I remember coming out of here when the tv stations started reporting, the first thing they started talking about were the bags in the car, the woman with the bags leaving, and they sort of just blew it completely out of proportion. Were you aware of what was being reported on television? M: In general. With twenty-four hour news, they have to talk about something don't they? But once the international news media got there, we put that to rest pretty quickly. We explained to them the investigation that the sheriff's office had conducted. I also explained that I got a commitment on the record in front of all the news media that each party was satisfied that the ballots had been protected and preserved, and there's no question about the integrity of the ballots themselves. So, in terms of questions that were asked of me, after we had been going about a day or so, those were no longer presented to me. P: One of the things I forgot to ask you, for example, one thing Palm Beach did, they took a one percent count. The Democrats, or whoever was bringing the request, can pick three precincts up to one percent of the vote, and the canvassing board looks at that to see if there is a basis for full recount. You did not do that? M: No. We made a decision, either we should do a complete recount of all votes, or we should not. My [idea] is if you're going to do something, either do it and do it right, or don't do it. P: At this point you were aware, I'm certain, of Secretary Katherine Harris' decision that she was going to certify the election, as the law states, seven days after the vote, which would have been November 14. At what point did you determine you might not get finished by that time, and at what point did you decide to file the first lawsuit? M: Well, we realized rather early that there were a number of problems. Finding an appropriate place to do the recount and get organized and everything. I forget exactly when it was, but it was very early. One of the meetings we had of the 25