FEP 43 Page 19 infamous attorney from Orlando who was invited to leave. P: Brown, is that his name? David Brown, yes. M: Is that what it is? P: Yes. M: But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Generally speaking they were Volusia County attorneys. The bottom line with us was at that point the news media was stating that the margin between George Bush and Al Gore was fewer than 400 votes. This is out of more than 6 million votes cast. We realized that we had some serious problems in terms of public confidence in the accuracy of our numbers simply because of the malfunctioning of that one precinct on the night in question generating thousands of negative votes for Al Gore, and then the incident of the elderly gentleman coming in and plopping down the bag of ballots on the counter the previous night. All three of us on the board said, listen, the Presidency of the United States is in the balance, we have got to make sure that our numbers are accurate because we do not want the race to be decided based upon an inaccurate reading of our ballots. So, we discussed it among ourselves and then we unanimously voted to conduct the recount. Now, after we had made that vote, the attorney from Orlando, and you told me his name, I don't know [if] that's his name, he continued to argue, as he had done previously, that we ought not to conduct a full recount. I said, excuse me, we have already voted to conduct the recount, and that did not stop him. He kept on arguing again, we ought not to conduct a full recount, [so] I said to him, you are out of order. And he said, you are out of order. That's why I looked at a deputy and I pointed to him and I said, remove him, now. All the television stations picked that up, my pointing at him and then the deputy sheriff taking him out. See, a Volusia County attorney would have known better than to try a stunt like that with me. P: At this point, do you immediately start the recount? Because at some point you move the ballots to the County Administration Center. M: Right. No, we concluded the meeting after that, but then we got together the next day, and that's when Deanie Lowe got together with people from the county manager's office about how we're going to do this. In fact, as I recall, we started the recount actually in the elections office, and it became obvious that there was just not enough room. We did not have enough people, and we were stumbling all over each other. That's when, I guess it was sometime later that day, that Deanie came in with one of the assistant county managers and they said, you know what we really ought to do is move everything across the street on the ground floor of the County Administration Building. They've got, I think it's called 19