FEP 43 Page 16 [End of side Al] P: Discuss the phone call you got from Bob Butterworth, attorney general. M: Well, first I got a phone call, and I suppose this was in the afternoon of Wednesday, [November] 8, because it was still daylight, I can still picture that. Somebody said, Judge McDermott, Judge Rouse is on the line. Judge Rouse was then the chief judge. So, I went back into some office and I picked it up and I said, hi Robby, what's on your mind? He said, Mike, I've gotten a phone call from the Attorney General. I said, what's the Attorney General have to do with this? But then I thought, well, he's the chief law enforcement officer in the state, and there was an allegation that ballots might have been taken, which would be a crime. I said, so, what's he want? He said, he wants to talk to you. I said, about what? He said, well, I'm not sure. I said, okay, so then he hung up. Then maybe ten minutes later it was Judge Rouse again, but there was also Mr. Butterworth on the line, so it was a conference call. I was in DeLand, Judge Rouse was in Daytona Beach, and Mr. Butterworth was in his office in Tallahassee. Very quickly Mr. Butterworth starts talking to me about his contention that the law requires a full manual recount of all ballots for president of the United States. I had read the statute and I did not read the statute that way. He talked for no more than a minute and a half and I interrupted him. I said, Mr. Butterworth, in what capacity are you making this call? He said, as attorney general of Florida. I said, well, my understanding is that you are also the state campaign manager for Mr. Gore. [He said], oh yes, that's true, but I mean the election's over now. I said, Mr. Butterworth, with all due respect, I believe that you have a conflict of interest. He got very huffy. He said, well, if you want me to leave, I'll just leave the room and I'll let you talk with one of my associates. Before I could say anything he put the phone down, and whatever room he was talking from did not have carpeting because I could clearly hear his footsteps as he's walking toward the door, [and] then I heard the door slam. Then somebody else comes on, a man, a deputy attorney general I'm assuming, and he starts saying the same thing to me, our contention is the statute requires a complete manual recount. I interrupted him and I said, listen, I can read the statute. The board will make its decision based on our reading of the statute, and we do not need any further advice from Tallahassee, thank you and goodbye. Now Judge Rouse is still on the line, and by this time it was obvious that I was irritated. I said, Robby, I do not want any more phone calls from Tallahassee telling me what I have to do or what I don't have to do. I said, I can read the statute, and we've got the county attorney here, and I'm sure we'll have plenty of attorneys from each party to help us in analyzing the statute. I don't want any more of this. He said, Mike, I understand, and I assure you there won't be. So, he hung up and that was the 16