FEP 43 Page 2 P: Were you on the canvassing board during the Beckstrom v. Volusia County case? M: No, that was another judge, who's still on the bench. P: Do you regret now having served on the canvassing board in 2000? M: No. It was a huge amount of work, and for the nine or ten days in question, rather than getting seven hours of sleep each night, I got no more than three [or four] hours of sleep each night. I will say this, my secretary and I would talk a couple times day while this was going on, and this was right after the [canvassing] board had unanimously voted to conduct a recount, a full manual recount, of all votes for President of the United States. She said, I'm going to tell you what everybody over here is saying. I said, who's everybody? She [said], judges, judges' secretaries, attorneys, deputy sheriffs, [and] court reporters, [are] all saying the same thing. I said, what's that? They're all saying, thank God it's McDermott, because he'll know what to do and he's got the backbone to crack the whip over people. P: Now talk a little bit about what Election Day was like for you and when you first discovered that this was going to be an extraordinary election. M: Well, the legislature has since changed the law on absentee ballots, which says that you can now [be] processing absentee ballots up to five days prior to Election Day. The law back then was that you cannot process absentee ballots, that is, running them through the tabulating machine, whichever device the county may have, until the polls open on Election Day. So all of us were frantically busy putting several thousands of absentee ballots through the optical scanners all day long, even into the night. In fact as I recall, we were doing it even after the polls closed because there were that many absentee ballots mailed in, not just from all over the country, but from all over the world. So, we were very busy doing that. Problems would come up at precincts, so the three of us who were on the canvassing board would get together and say, well, okay, we'll do this, or tell them that. See, Deanie Lowe herself was on the ballot; she was up for reelection. P: So, she was not on the canvassing board? M: That's right. She was our advisor, although we did also have the county attorney there with us. P: Okay, so Patricia Northey and Ann McFall were the other two members? 2