306 DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL I submit that, Mr. President, as not only the parliamentary rule but common sense. Mr. LOGAN. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? The PanaSINo Oiw C. Does the Senator from Texas yield to the Senator from Kentucky? Mr. ConluALY. I yield. Mr. LooAN. I think the Senator from Texas has clearly expressed the proper interpretation of the rule, that the estimate must be submitted in the manner the law requires it to be submitted. Mr. CONnALLY. Exactly. Mr. LooAN. But, listening to the argument of the Senator from Missouri, It seems to me it goes a little further than that. His contention is that this project was established by the President of the United States and that Con- gress has not given its authority. I do not understand the Senator from Mis- souri to contend that Congress may not make the appropriation, but that, if it does so, then it becomes a congressional project without Congress having previ- ously considered it. Is that the idea of the Senator from Texas of what the Senator from Missouri is contending from what he has stated? Mr. CL&ax. Mr. President, may I say to my friend that at the conclusion of the remarks of the Senator from Texas I will be very glad to explain to the Senator from Kentucky exactly what my position is. I much prefer to explain my own position than to have the Senator from Texas do so. Mr. LooAN. The Senator from Texas has made such a clear explanation of the rule, so much better than anyone else, that I thought perhaps he would be able to explain the contention of the Senator from Missouri. Mr. CLasa. Mr. President- Mr. CONNALLT. Just a moment Let me say to the Senator from Missouri that he can have all the time he desires. I now yield to him. Mr. Cramx. I will say to the Senator from Texas that I will claim the floor in my own right and take all the time I desire. Mr. CONNALLY. I am willing that that should happen. Mr. President, let us look for a moment at the contention that because this project originally was selected by the President it is not lawful. If it is not lawful, then we have embezzled about $4,800,000,000 of the people's money, and some of the Senators, instead of worrying about the rules of the Senate, ought to be devising ways and means to stop the utilization of the $4,800,000,000 on any of these projects. I submit that the language of the rule referring to estimates does not neces- sarily apply to projects not in existence at all. Suppose it,should be a new project? If we have an estimate for it, though there may not have been a cent spent on it, under the rule the Senate may consider it. Mr. ADAMS. Mr. President, will the Senator yield for an inquiry? Mr. CONNALLY. Certainly. Mr. ADAMe. The amendment which is under consideration proposes to add to the bill, after the word "navigation", page 60, line 4, these words: "And to include waterway improvements investigated by the War Department under specific authorization from Congress and subsequently undertaken pursuant to the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act of 198." May I ask the Senator from Texas what projects are covered by the amend- ment? It would seem to me this is a wide-open authorization of every water- way project that may have been investigated by the War Department. I do not know whether or not all those projects have Budget estimates behind them. Mr. CONNAm.Y. The Senator is a member of the Appropriations Committee and ought to know more about the details of this matter than I do. Mr. ADAMs I voted against the amendment for that reason. Mr. CONNALLY. The Senator now asks me what the amendment means? Mr. ADAMS. No; I am trying to show that I do not know what may be cov- ered by the amendment Mr. CNNALLY. I am not arguing about the merits of the proposal. That is for the Senate to determine. Cannot the Senate trust itself to consider the matter? Cannot the Senate pass upon the merits of the proposal? I am merely arguing the purely technical or legal point involved. If the Senate cannot trust Itself to pass on these matters, then rule XVI ought to be made still stronger. Mr. FLjrcHn. Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. CONNALLY. Certainly.