274 DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL Senator FLrcan. My contention is that the Senator admits himself out of court when he admits that this authorization is based upon the Relief Act of 1935 which gave the President absolute authority and power and right in his discretion to designate the projects upon which we would begin work and make allotments of funds with which work is proceeding. He did that In this case and in the case of these five items on page 15, part 2, of the hearings of the House committee. Now, he exercised his discretion. He exercises the power which Congress gave him in designating these as not merely work-relief projects, the authority for which came under that act called the Work Relief Act of 1935, but Con- gress gave him wide discretion to begin publil-works projects wherever he saw fit and proper to do it. He took into consideration the matter of employment I will ask General Markham about that. This $5,000000 was Intended to apply to the work on the canal I think that the general told me at one time he would employ 25,000 workers on this canal when they got to full speed in full headway, but I will ask him about that in a minute. But the other proposition that the President has acted here apparently with- out any information from the engineers and those who have studied the problem is not correct In the first place, the act of Congress calling for the survey of a ship canal across Florida passed In 1927, directing the Chief of Engineers to make this survey. There had been previous surveys and reports on a barge canal not necessary to consider here. The Chief of Engineers appointed a board, a special board. He did not refer it to the district engineer as with the ordinary usual small projects in the rivers and harbors procedure and have the district engi- neer report to the division engineer and he to the Board on Rivers and Harbors, and then to the Chief of Engineers, and the Chief of Englneers to the Secre- tary of War, and the Secretary of War to the House. That was not the pro- cedure here. That is not the procedure that prevails in these large projects at all. He appointed a special board to make this survey and that board spent some 18 months going into the problem. They took Into their conferences the Com- merce Department to ascertain the economic Justification, the amount of traffic and business that would pass through the canal, and so forth. They made their report to the Board of Engineers for Rivers and Harbors. There it has rested, because there were applications made by the proponents of the canal in Florida for granting a loan to it by the R. F. C., to put it on a self-liqui- dating basis. That was referred, all of those matters from the R. P. C., were referred to the P. W. A. The P. W. A. went into the question and with their engineers they examined the whole problem as to the justification and as to whether or not this security that was offered would be regarded as adequate security by them for the loaning of $115,000,000. In the survey the special board considered the canal as a lock canal with three locks in it. The P. W. A. engineers considered it with two locks, a lock canal with two locks. There is a difference between their estimated costs, and other items entered into that matter, but that reconciliation seemed to be Important to be made to satisfy the President about it, and the Senators from all of the Gulf and South Atlantic States joined in a letter to the President asking him to appoint a special board of review to reconcile these two reports of these different engineers on this canal and to make their own studies and investigate the conditions, and make report to him on the question of the Justification and proper authorization for this canal. That board of review canceled out the lock features entirely from the canal, and they reported to the President in favor of a sea-level canal, with a lower estimated cost. Senator CA~m. What board was that? Senator PLFm ni. That was the board of review appointed by the order of the President, composed of two Army engineers, two engineers from the P. W. A., and a civilian engineer, Mr. Douglas, of New York, who was made chairman. Now, that board of review reported to the President in favor of a sea-level canal as against a lock canal, and made their estimate of cost. That report was made on June 28, 1984. That board made a report to the President recom- mending the construction of the sea-level canal and estimated its cost at $142,- 700,000, exclusive of lands and rights-of-way, and interest during construction. The rights-of-way have been provided by the State.