DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL Senator VANDENBERG. Does that refer to me? I did not know there was anything insidious about it. If there is anything insidious about it I think the draft of $200,000,000 out of the United States Treasury without the slightest evidence shown in the way of facts to substantiate it, should come in the ordinary and traditional way. And if we are going to discuss insidiousness, let us discuss that. The CHAIRMAN. Go ahead, Mr. Buckman. Mr. BucKMAN. In addition to these, approval of the project has been formally expressed by 70 members of the United States Senate and the Governors of 36 States, representing all of the major political parties. Senator VANDENBEBG. When was that done and how? Do you mean were the messages of felicitation that were sent down when the thing was started? Mr. BUCxKAN. Those were the messages which were sent when the work started. Are you familiar with them? Senator VANDENBERG. I am very familiar with them; I am familiar with them and I know exactly how they were obtained. Senator FL-rCHEB. They were obtained all right. Senator VANDENBERG. Oh, yes. I am afraid if you had to send me word at that time I would have sent you a message of felicitation, because everybody loves you. Mr. BUCKMAN. Evidence has been presented to the committee in the form of letters from ship-operating concerns which indicate a lack of interest in or hostility to the project on the part of those par- ticular companies. It seems appropriate to call the attention of the committee to certain considerations which necessarily govern the evaluation of this kind of testimony. Long-established and universally accepted custom has determined that the highest authority on questions of hazards to inland naviga- tion, and the safe dimensions and conditions for harbors and inland waterways, is the Corps of Engineers; and the highest authority for sailing routes and for questions of time and distance is the Bureau of Navigation. When these two agencies unite in determining that a given route for navigation will be adequate and safe, and will require certain times and distances to be covered, it may be reasonably con- cluded that these determinations are correct. In the case of the present project, the Army engineers and the Bureau of Navigation have determined that it will be adequate and safe for navigation, and that it will effect certain savings of time and distance. These savings in time and distance may be, and have been, translated, with reason- able accuracy, into dollars and cents. When a ship operator states that he will not avail himself of these savings, he may be presumed, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, to be telling the truth. But when he denies the time and distance savings determined by these agencies, it is fair to assume that he is in error. Since the immemo- rial tendency of trade and navigation has been to take advantage of every factor which might increase profit, it would appear that when a ship operator states that he will not avail himself of such factors, they are probably overbalanced by other factors, not necessarily apparent, which apply to the interests of that particular operator. For these reasons, expressions, either favorable or adverse to a project of this kind, from ship-operating concerns, can only be taken as a guide to the 249