DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL 243 approximately 32 years. If capitalized at 3 percent, it shows a margin over the cost of construction of $99,000,000. Senator VANDENBERG. How do you square that with the fact that the special board of review said you could not even justify it in paying off a bond issue in 80 years? Mr. BUCKMAN. Senator, I have already explained to you twice that that was a question of their not being able to pay off a bond issue in 80 years, and they, the board of review, said that an 8-cent toll would not yield enough revenue to pay off the cost and 2-percent interest in 80 years. They did not say the benefits of the project would not pay it off. Senator VANDENBERG. I think you are entirely correct in your statement. I simply go further than you do. I assume if Congress is not willing to pay anything for the benefit that the benefit is more fictitious than real. Mr. BUCKMAN. That is your assumption, Senator. Senator VANDENBERG. That is correct. That is entirely my as- sumption. r. BUCKMAN. In other words, on the basis used by the Board for Rivers and Harbors of the Corps of Engineers, the project shows that it will pay in direct benefits sufficient to meet all interest, operation, and maintenance charges, and repay its entire cost, including interest during construction, in approximately 32 years. It is therefore not only economically justifiable but is in a highly preferred class of proj- ects. This becomes even more apparent when the ratio of cost to benefits of the project is compared with the ratios of cost and benefits of other meritorious authorized projects. Senator FrLECHE=. I think it can be fairly assumed, without any argument at all, that ships are going to use that route which is more advantageous to them. Senator VANDENBERG. Yes. Senator FLEInHm. If they can save a little money, even a few dollars, they will use that route. Senator VANDENBERG. Yes. The question is whether it is advan- tageous. That is what it boils down to. Senator FuLCHEm. Yes; that is the question-if they can save a little money, time, and distance, and all of that, why, they are going to use it. The CHAIR AN. You may proceed in your own way, Mr. Buckman. Mr. BUCKMAN. If the committee please, before leaving this question of economic justification, I should like to point out on this question of ratios of benefits to costs to compare the figures found for the Florida canal and those of other highly meritorious and authorized rivers and harbors projects. The following is a list of the most outstanding of these: N of project Ratio of cost to Rank according to ben ofts rprojecio Florida Canal...........--------------- ------ ------------- to 1.6 ---------First. Delaware River to Philadelphia and to Trenton.--.----..------. to 1.3------------ Second. New York-Nw Jy h -------.....--...--------------..................... 1 to 1.2.------...--. Third. ChuapeL & Delaware Canal....------------------------ to ...----------- Fourth. Beaver, Mahooln Canal...-------------.---...--.---...-- do....-------. Do. Cape Canal.......--------............................... do.....---... Do.