230 DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL The CHAuIxN. Of course, that is not needed in Florida. Nature takes care of that. Mr. BUCKMAN. I beg to be excused from answering that question. May I resume, Mr. Chairman The CHAPMAN. Yes. Senator FITrCH I would say that General Markham's testi- mony, as I recall it, is that there was an increased cost in excavation, but that he considers the whole project will be brought within the estimates which they furnished. Senator VANDENBER. Excuse me, Senator. I do not believe that is quite what he said, is it Senator FizrCHI. That is my recollection. Senator VANDENBERO. At any rate, it can stand for itself. Mr. Buckman, just before you proceed, you referred to the report of the special board of Army engineers, which has not yet been published. Is that the only reference you intend to make to that report? Mr. BUCKMAN. No; I have other references to make to it, Senator. Senator VANDENBEG. Perhaps I may as well comment here as at any time, Mr. Chairman, that it seems very strange to me that there should be a report-and I do not know what is in it any more than you do-to which Congress should not be entitled at a moment when It is in the definite consideration of this matter. And I quote from a letter from Major General Markham, under date of February 11, 1936, in which he declines to release any of this information. He says- That the publication even of an abstract report, an abstract copy of the report, would be in violation of the understanding of the Department with the committees of Congress. I think that is really an absurd situation. The CHAIRMAN. Let me understand about this. What is that report? To whom was it made? What is the report? Senator VANDNBERG. It is a report to the Board of Rivers and Harbors engineers, as I understand it, and Mr. Buckman, you will correct me if I am wrong. Mr. BUCKMAN. By the Special Board of Survey. Senator VANDENBERG. By the special board; yes. Mr. Buckman the Department, General Markham says, or no, excuse me, General Pillsbury says: The review of the Board has been deferred at the request of local interests desirous of submitting additional data. Is that true, that this review has been delayed at the request of local interests Mr. BUCKMAN. That is quite true. Shall I elaborate on that for the information of the committee Senator VANDENBERO. Yes. Mr. BUCKMAN. Early in 1925-- The CHmIaAN. 1925? Mr. BucrKMi. I beg your pardon. The CHImIAN. Yes. Mr. BUCKAN (continuing). The Board for Rivers and Harbors of the Corps of Engineers stated that it was ready to examine the report of Special Board of Survey on this project.