220. DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL show that the margin of saving would be so small that probably we would but seldom use it. But even if it were a free canal, the probable extra time saved by using the canal rather than going around would not necessarily make it an economical waterway for our ships to use. I have already put in the record Mr. Pew's letter on behalf of the Sun Oil Co. of Philadelphia. Moore & McCormack Co., signed by Robert C. Lee, vice president, dated January 21, 1936: It would not seem to us, however, that there is anything like sufficient naviga- tion to warrant this expenditure. The Gulf Refining Co., by its agent at Miami: There is no demand for the canal by any shipping company, and all of them have shown no interest in it. Then he refers to the water hazard. Richfield Oil Co. of California, Los Angeles, signed by P. C. Lamb, marine department, dated January 7: It is hardly conceivable that this canal could justifiably be constructed and maintained as a free canal. If, on the other hand, the canal were operated on a toll basis, the tolls would have to be confined to the limits of saving in operating costs by reason of the distance cut off; and if the tolls were held to these limits, we seriously doubt that the revenue would cover the cost of maintenance, to say nothing of liquidating the investment. Sabine Towing Co., Port Arthur, Tex., January 3, 1936, signed by its vice president: Our firm does not deem an expenditure on this project of between $140,000,000 and $200,000,000 warranted by navigation savings, because of the fact that $200,000,000 at 4 percent would be $8,000,000 interest charges, which could not be realized by the combined savings of all the vessels that would use this waterway. The CaanMAx. That completes the list, does it Senator VNmDENBEo. That completes the list of direct comment. I have also heard from probably 25 others of the shipping companies which were listed to me by the War Department, and they expressed no interest in the matter one way or the other, and have come to no conclusion as to whether or not they would care to use the canal. The CHAMMAN. Senator Fletcher, have you any material you would like to put in the record Senator FL mCHE. I would like to put in the record here the exact statement of Colonel Youngberg in regard to what I said with regard to the analysis made for shipping for 1929. It is paragraph 29 of his letter [reading]: For the Florida Canal, a very complete analysis was made of the shipping for 1929. Every vessel was traced into and out of the Gulf, and out of a total of 1,71 vessels carrying the total foreign and domestic commerce of the United States Gulf coast ports, it was found that 1,487 different ships made 10,341 voyages that could have used the canal to advantage. The total net registered tonnage for these voyages was 38,45,124, while the cargo amounted to 45,174,704 tons of 2,000 pounds each. Of these voyages, 7,610 were made under the Ameri- can flag, with a net tonnage of about 28,800,000 tons. A similar analysis of the 1981 commerce was made by another agency and showed 9,575 potential transits. The reduction below the 1981 figures was due to the smaller number of foreign-flag vessels, and this, in turn, was due to the world-wide depression and the corresponding reduction in commerce. Now, has Senator Vandenberg concluded ? Senator VANDENEaGm. Yes.