DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL Secretary IcKES. It was not necessary, Senator, because we turned it down regardless of that consideration. The CHAIRMAN. That really did not enter into the conclusion you reached Secretary ICKES. No; but if it had been a border-line case we would have felt under obligation to take that into consideration. But we did not; we turned it down on other grounds. Senator FLETCHE. Now, Mr. Secretary, may I ask you what re- port is referred to here? The CHAIRMAN. Excuse me just a minute, Senator. Then you did not consider this at all a border-line case Secretary IcIKE. No. The CHAIRMAN. You felt that the evidence was overwhelming against the approval of the project as far as your organization was concerned ? Secretary ICKEs. It was at least a preponderance of the evidence that way. That doubt could not be overcome to our satisfaction. The CHaIRAN. Let me ask this one last question: Had it been so close to the border line that every element would enter into the matter of making your decision, would the possible effects upon the ground waters have been an important matter Secretary ICKEs. Yes; it would. We would have held a public hearing, and we would have given an opportunity to the objectors, on that ground or on any other substantial ground, to appear and present their evidence. Senator FLErcHER. You were considering a lock canal all the way through, were you not ? Secretary ICKES. No; we were considering either a lock or a sea- level canal. Senator FLxrcHER. You never reached a sea-level canal until this board reported, this board of review Secretary IcKEs. The original application to the R. F. C. was for a lock canal. Originally we did consider it on that basis. That inter-departmental memorandum, the photostat copy of which I think you hold in your hand, Senator, did deal with it as a lock canal. Subsequently, when this special board was set up, it considered it also as a sea-level canal, and then naturally we began to look at it in that way. Senator FLErCma. Here is your description, originally signed by you disapproving the loan and signed by the administrator January 29, 1935, description of the project: Construction of a deep-sea canal with two sets of locks across the State of Florida connecting the Gulf of Mexico with the Atlantic Ocean. Secretary IcxES. Yes; that was the way it came in originally. That rejection was of a lock canal. Senator FLECHER. As a matter of fact, Mr. Secretary, the Board of Engineers for Rivers and Harbors were first considering a canal with locks, and then your board considered the lock canal, and then there was a wide divergence of opinion between the Board of Engi- neers for Rivers and Harbors and your board Secretary ICKES. Yes. That was because the cost of a lock canal was so high, and we were trying to bring the cost down. 208