DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL General MABanM. I have got it, $148,000,000. Senator VANDENBEam. $148,621,000, without charging any interest during construction. General MARTAw. That is correct. The CHAIxMN. That is for the sea-level canal, is it? Senator VANDENBER No; that is a lock canal of 80 feet. With charging interest during the period of construction, your estimate was $166,000,000, and if it went to 85 feet on the lock canal the estimate was $195,642,000. These estimates are based, are they not, on the price index of June 1934 i General MasRHAM. Well, I would say perhaps it is roughly that. During that special board's consideration there were considerations running over, I should think, something like 18 months, trying to make up our minds as to what was going to be the fluctuation of labor and all the other costs. The estimates are based upon the best judgment that could be applied under those circumstances. Senator VANDENBER. Have you had a chance to review the files of my correspondence with General Pillsbury? General MARBKHM. I have not. Senator VAmDENBEr. My information comes from General Pills- bury. He states these estimates are based on the price index of June 1934. General MAhKHAM. That was about the time of the final considera- tion. I suppose it is a fair statement. Senator VANDENBEG. That is the low period, is it not, in the price index General MARwgAx. I should think that is right; yes. Senator VANDEBNBEG. How much has the cost factor increased now over 1934, in June, speaking generally? General MaKHa x. I think it depends very greatly upon what is the class of performance. We have been surprised to find that our excavation costs have not largely increased. We have been sur- prised to find in many cases the estimates submitted are substantially lower than our estimates. We have found, so far as I can make it out, that on constructional matters, meaning the big power installa- tions, the locks, dams, and so forth, the manner of performance under the relief regulations has possibly increased costs on that class of thing by about 26 percent. Senator VANDENBEBG. Twenty-six percent General MawmAxw. That is what we figure from our books Senator VANDENBER. I have great respect for the estimates of your board, General. Your figures and mine appear to be conclusive on that subject. In the light of your statements, would you say that this construction project, which will take 6 years to conclude, as I understand it, can now be safely contemplated, on the basis of the June 1984 figures General MARaKAx. I would say that, depending upon how the project proceeds depending upon the resources that become available, if they are consistent with the scale of the problem, I think we can come out close to the estimates, but it will take a particular sequence. I have tried to illustrate that by saying that the excavation of the canal cannot be done within the estimate, or within the presumption of estimate, except under the plan contemplated in preparing the 189