DOCUMENTARY HISTORY OF THE FLORIDA CANAL SarLea Mv a D INTO THB GBOUPB It may be as well to repeat here that the savings to a ship using the canal may be set up in three groups, as follows: A. Savings in money: These are the actual savings in operating cost and fixed charges represented by the hours saved. B. Saving of the time itself. As will be shown, this time will be reflected in additional voyages, the profit on which may equal or exceed the money repre- sented by A. C. Miscellaneous savings and advantages, some of which are determinate, and others indeterminate, but all of which may be real and important. They comprise (a) betterment of competitive position, (b) reserve fleet capital sav- ings, (o) stimulation of exchange of water-borne freight by reason of shorter schedules, (d) stimulation of passenger traffic, (e) greater freedom from hazard due to safer and shorter roets. It will be seen that A represents calculable magnitudes which may be com- pated with all necessary precision. The values of B, while of great importance, are bound to fluctuate, and to vary with each owner. C comprises items most of which are incalculable but none the les real and valuable. It may be taken for granted that an owner will route his vessels to his greatest advantage, and that he will seek any real net advantage no matter whether small or great Experience as well as common sense indicates that if the canal toll were equivalent to the values represented by A the owner would of necessity pay it In order to secure to himself the advantages of B and C. That it will not be necessary for the canal to charge a toll equivalent to the total of A is beside the point for the immediate discussion. Such a toll, mani- festly, could be charged and leave such substantial benefits to shipping as to cause them to bear the toll and use the canal. DOCUMENT NO. 24 (FILES OF THE CHIEF OF ENGINEERS), FEBRUARY 10, 1933 APPEARANCE or CErAIN RAILnOAD INTEREST IN OPPosITIoN BEOREo THF SPECIAL BOABD Report of proceedings of hearings held at Jacksonville, Fla., by the special board of Army engineer officers in charge of the survey for the Gulf-Atlantic ship canal, under date of February 10, 1938 The following is extracted from the stenographic report of the above hearing: The hearing was called to order by CoL T. H. Jackson, senior member of the board, at 10:30 a. m. Other members of the board present were Lt. Col. Warren T. Hannum, Corps of Engineers, New Orleans, La.; Lt CoL Robert S. Thomas, Corps of Engineers, Mobile, Ala.; Maj. C. Garlington, Corps of Engi- neers, Savannah, Ga.; Maj. B. C. Dunn, Corps of Engineers, Jacksonville, Fla.; and Maj. R. A. Sharrer, Corps of Engineers, Montgomery, Ala. In addition there were approximately 50 persons present representing the different inter- ests-representatives of railroads, local Florida engineers, etc. Colonel JAcxKso. This meeting has been called primarily at the request of certain railroad interests who desire to present certain data to be heard. Mr. Kay is going to conduct the presentation, and I would suggest that those of you called upon to address the board sit down by the side of the stenographer in order to make it easy for him to hear all that is to be said. Mr. W. E. KAY, general solicitor, Atlantic Coast Line Railroad, Jacksonville, Fla. Chairman and gentlemen of the board, at the hearing called, as you have stated, it is our thought that after the objections have been recorded and the representatives of the lines here have presented their talks in opposition to what is desired by the promoters of the cross-State canal that we will introduce testimony which will follow more particularly along the lines of the construc- tion features, supplementing it with certain thoughts as to navigability of the canal if constructed; then, requesting the board that further time be allowed to the objectors after having been supplied with the arguments on the traffic