AL 29AB -16- Tape A M: the freshman out of the dormitories. J: Is this before every game or before the first game? M: Before every game. J: Mmm hmm. M: Or practically every game as far...... I don't remember that it was every but you got everybody got out and you knew you had to do it Saturday, Friday night and...... rat caps and/uh people hasslifg,you around. T- Hassling, it was uh .... it was sort of a teasing-type thing. Yj know how kids tease each other? It's that type of thing. It's uh.... um you were rushed. Of course the fraternities got their people out- pr rr~cS'. Fraternities then existed from ..... 13th, now 13th was then 9th street. J: Mmm hmm. M: Along there and down toward town and in what's now 2nd Avenue is what T. Uhthere where where the uh.... J: Phi Tau house is today? M: Yeah and all these are.... are still at the corner where the filling station used to be the SAE house and somebody was across the street and all these start fading away. The Sigma uh..... The Kappa Alphas were directly across from the ..... um/Plaza of the Americas and they are the big southern fraternity and ...... ut these people got their freshman pledges out. They had to participate and I guess they made itf they paddled the boys and I'm sure that sooner or later some.... in one of these organizations you got some guy who... who has a mean steak and find somebody.... somebody who wants to do something mean too. Uh Anderson of course, Dick Anderson lived in Buckman Hall. Buckman Hall was the least expensive dormitory quarters at the time. It was the oldest dormitory and as far as I know it hadn't been remodeled at that time and so it was like it was in the..... /1ell probably some remodeli-because there used to be class-