AL 29AB -14-
 Tape A


M: down the bricks of Universtiy Avenue. Somebody always would be wear bedroom

 slippers and then of course,you have to run like mad and bedroom slippers

 aren't made for running. You put on tennis shoes. (chuckle)

J: I wanna ask you one more thing about fraternity and then I wanna go into

 this pajama parties and talk about it for awhile. Um, did you feel that

 there was an attitude on campus that if you didn't belong to the fraternity

 you weren't really part of the campus or a discrimination sort of?

M: No, no, no. There wa.... there was a group that belonged to fraternities.

 They were usually some of the more affluent people. Usually their fathers

 were doctors or lawyers or professional people. Uh...... they.... /ou didn't

 necessarily feel excluded from them. You met them in classes, you were

 friends with em, you may even ..... uh they um..... engage in social

 activities with m. The fraternity was sort of a sepArate thing which

 belong to them and you then had your circle of friends that you belonged to.

 But I never found any great problem with it uh..... or at least I never

 felt excluded from anything. Do I recognize? Yes, it was somebody else'gy/4.

 It's about the same a~s-ie emm as the comment you were talking about last

 night. Uh the Pancoast Hotel on Miami Beachwhich is long since been gone/

 but it was a..... y know kind of a not very large but rather nice place uh but

 for a number of years it had the little street sign/yf know. Uh I don't

 know whether it...... I don't Know how a sign can be discrete but yf knowwhat

 I'm talking about?

J: Mmm hmm.

M: But uh Iit's the sort of the same feeling you had about fraternities. Yeah, they

 were there. You weren't ,(j to them. It didn't really bother you.

 Ygknow you.... you weren't uh.... it's like belonging to another group. You

 had your group that you belonged to. The persons involved..... were not uh.....