AL 29AB -13-
 Tape A


M: the time you're in school, you get the illusion that everything that's happening

 now happened before that just exactly the way it's happening now and will

 continue to happen there forever. This of course is why a lot of alumni get

 all shook up sometimes when they come back and-fy find that it isn't the

 way it was when they went to school. And to them it was very nice and fun

 and pretty. Yg knowthey..... they enjoyed it, it was great. And they sort of

 think gee, you guys doirnthis sort of thing and that and) y know they... they're

 disgusted with it. They say why don't you do it this way. We had a lot of

 fun doing it that way! And I think this is part of the problem where alumni are

 not happy with the way things are now.

J: That's almost any place that you go back to.

M: Yeah. Yeah. Ya know a man said yp can't go.....

J: Can't go home?

M: Yeah.

J: Yeah. Were you a member of a fraternity or were you..... did you remain

 independent?

M: I remained independent.

J: And were you approached thoughlor did you attend rush at all?

M: No, I didn't attend rush. Uh.... I didn't.... I was probably pretty naive

 at the time, didn't push in that direction, probably/for one thing couldn't

 afford it so I didn't bother. The only thing I got active in uh.... my

 freshman yearof course I had to participate in all the freshman eventsjuh
 o,
 y# know. Football season the first fallI uh every football game was the

 parade downtown. You've probably heard about the thing. Downtown you

 quickly...... /f you had a good friend you told em don't wear slippers. Y'oA

 know there was always somebody that wears slippers at the pajama parades
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