AL 32AB -5- Tape A M: Which is uh municipal golf course. He didn't lay them out but he operated them. I mean ...... he took care of em and laid out the parks and did a lot of planting of palms and trees along all the parkways in the early days Vl-^ --y. f3;g; growing and coming along. J: I was gonna ask you something and uh l can't think what I was gonna ask all the sudden. No, I'll think of it a minute. Oh well. You came... So you came to the university...... Oh I was gonna ask you if your father was still alive? M: Yes, yes. He he uhf he was ..... My parents live' ..... I don't remember the exact year when they died now. That's the sort of thing that becomes a little hazy but um they live right on..... through after my graduation and marriage and returned to university as .... as a faculty, J: Mmm hmm. M: So uh.... And I then early on\spent lots of time driving from Gainesville to +0n CnC-pt Miami and back and forth v-i4eig my parents. I wish they had built interstate highways when I was doing this in those days which is twelve hours of rough driving, usually US-1 from here to St. Augustine or Duor-on~vici actually and then down through uh Tampa uh I mean.... Daytona and the east coast or possibly through Orlando and US-27 down around Belglade. J: Well when you were a student and you were taking these routes home to Miami, did you have a car at that time? M: I didn't have a car. Uh.... seemy first recollection was...... for the first trip here was of course by Greyhound on Miami bus. I arrived at the old Greyhound station. I have great difficulty remembering exactly where it was. It uh was on one of the back streets uh just off of the square. It was not where it was oh..... in forty-six or forty-seven but some other corner. It