AL 32AB -4- Tape A M: in Miami when we lived in Miami, through most of high school except my senior year when we returned to Miami Beachfand uh I graduated from Fisher,'now Miami Beach High School...... thirty-five. Went to work for a year after that, after graduating fw Na '-r together. And then in thirty-six I came to the university. J: When you were living in the beach and your father was working there, did he have acquaintance with John Collins or Carl Fisher? M: Yeah. J: And what kind of capacity did you know of Rnm or did he know-~aof-=i ? M: Well uh ..... those type ..... hose days, y seeI everybody who was a permanent resident has distinguish from winter visitors, the snow bird types. Well they didn't call em snow birds. They were people like Firestone, Gould, and Snowden, and let's see Osborn......... these people came down but they didn't vote, they weren't par,#, to any of the politics ,or the internal operation in Miami Beach. Soyes, my father knew him. Well for a short, not a relative short time, fairly.... yA know several years he was Superintendent of Parks for ity of Miami Beach. So that's when we were living in Miami and he was working in Miami Beach. He laid out Park, Collins Park, and parkways on either side of,uh, Aven ue all those trees and all that sort of stuff and then he had the golf course where the high school is now. J: Is that ? M: No. J: Oh no, no. Where the high school is now. M: Where the high school is now there was a golf course on both sides of Collins Canal. J: Mmm hmm.