They tell me that one tree on the University produced so heavily
 that none of these other trees ever produced like that one tree.
 There was something different about that tree.

M: What about the restaurants in town that you ate in? Did you ever eat in
 Louis'sLunch, or the Primrose, or Tony's Lunch Room, or the College Inn?

S: The Primrose started in the old Dutton residence, south of University
 Avenue. Where the Great Southern Music Hall and Penney's are, that whole
 block was the Dutton House. The Dutton House was on that whole lot. The
 Primrose Grill started in the Dutton House, and we used to eat there
 occasionally. That was about 1925. Then they moved over across the street.

M: Do you know when they moved across the street?

S: Byron Winn could tell you, but I would say it was in the late '20s or early '30s.

M: Did you ever eat at the College Inn, because it was so close?

S: Oh, yes. The first College Inn, and I've seen a picture of it around here
 somewhere, was a little rock building. It was run by Dudley Williams-
 Uncle Dudley.

M: This is before Mr. Hammond?

S: Oh, many years before. Uncle Dudley opened the College Inn. It wasn't a full
 restaurant, not much more than a snack bar for a long time. For several years,
 Sam Harn and a fellow named J.B. Gracy used to run it. I don't know whether
 Sam sold it to Hammond, or whether there was anyone in between them. After
 he had the College Inn, Sam was a city tax collector and assessor, and later
 on he was the executive secretary for the Chamber of Commerce.

M: What about the 1938 fire around the west side of the Courthouse?

S: I remember that one. The Cox Furniture -Gainesville Furniture, they
 called it at that time.

M: Were you there, watching the fire?

S: Yes. That fire put Thomas Hardware out of business. Thomas Hardware was one
 of the big old firms in Gainesville. They were competitive with Baird Hardware;
 they were probably here before Baird. The fire put them out of business. They
 never did go back.

M: I guess some had insurance, but most of the people didn't even have fire insur-
 ance at that time, so it caused quite a loss.

S: Well, you don't always know what insurance they have and what they don't.

M: Did you have a car in the '30s?

S: I had a car and I had a motorcycle in the teens. I had a motorcycle when I was
 a sophomore. I lived on East Main Street, just north of the White House Hotel,
 where the First Florida Savings is now, and I rode a bicycle to school. We had
 a cook. I could set my alarm for 7:30 in the morning and get dressed and get