18 the reason, but the most recent reason which I have heard is because when we die, our spirits go toward the west. After they have lain the body facing west, fire is lit. After four days the people return and again light a fire. Then four shots are fired with a rifle. After the shots are fired, they say the spirit leaves the body, rises, and goes to the happy hunting ground. C: Is the happy hunting ground and what the white man calls heaven the same place? 0: It is about the same. However, when the Indian is talking about the happy hunting ground, this is an English literal translation which in fact meant a great place for good hunting. There are some blind women living on the reservation. They are very happy, and their attitude to life is a good example of their feeling toward their condition. They feel that their blindness is only temporary. They believethe very instant their spirit leaves their bodies, they will no longer be blind, and they will experience the sights of a real and lasting beauty. The ladies talk about the need for the Seminoles to go through a ceremony which includes having the arms burned in de- signated places. When this is done it ensures the person for his journey into the happy hunting ground. They warned that if a Seminole does not have these markings, they will not be able to go there. These burns will light the way when it is time for the Seminole who is going to the happy hunting ground. On his way he will have to cross a bridge which is as narrow as the sole of one's foot and it is dark. The light will come from the burns on the arms so the person can see where to step, and the way will be made easy for him. However, if the Seminole did not receive these burns on the arms, when this person at- tempts to cross the bridge he will not have any light to help him. Below is nothing but boiling water. He will not fall in it, but he will be given this boiling water to drink for always. He will spend eternity looking for death. During his lifetime, if he had committed crimes such as lying or stealing, etc., he will have to suffer eternally for his misdeeds. The elderly women told me that they did not want me to go through this torture, so that is why they wanted me to take part in the burning ceremony. As far as I know all the Seminoles still go through this ceremony. C: (Osceola looked at one of the young women who was sitting and listening to him talk. He asked her if she went through this ceremony. She said, "Yes," and showed him her scars she re- ceived from the burning ceremony. Christians and non-Christians as well, to my knowledge, have gone through this ceremony.)