32 is a palmetto spine circle, tied with two of 'em, with a beer can on the end. The Indian sheriffs walk around, and I said, "What do the Indian sheriffs do, Howard?" I hadn't gotten into the dance yet. And Howard said, "The Indian sheriffs make sure that anybody that gets in the dance has to take a drink when the dance stops, and cannot go to sleep." K: Even the children? R: Right. And so you passed out a ritual bottle of wine, beer, or whiskey. K: What do you mean, a ritual bottle? In other words, they don't drink anything in particular, or..,? R: They drink everything in particular. Everything. Alice Osceola was dispensing beer. But you passed down a bottle. Along towards dark at the Green Corn Dance everybody having not been allowed to sleep, and not had anything to eat for twenty-four hours, and having had these ritual drinks, is pretty damn drunk! And it gets pretty out there, you know. The light, light, lightness of dark--that pretty color, and I'll always remember that pine tree. And then what comes is a ritual, scraping. K: What's that? R: Well, Howard says, "Come over here and let Jane see what's happening." It's a block of wood that's about the size of matches, and through it is stuck about six needles--just plain sewing needles--and they stick out about one-sixteenth to one-eighth of an inch. And the medicine man goes around... [scraping sound is made]. K: Let's tell what you're doing while you're.... R: Well, he scrapes 'em, and it sounds just like this! [scraping sound]. He scrapes their arms, their chests, and their back. It sounds pretty gruesome, since he scrapes 'em. Howard said, "Oh, we use to have a mean ole medicine man that really scraped us deep." But you know, it scrapes and they bleed; then they go off into small tents where there are hot rocks on which are thrown water, and,... K: Tents?