28 R: No, no, no! They had no basis. They were based on the sewing machine, They were what the Indians gave the sewing machine. There's an art and a creativity that goes on from a sewing machine, right? K: Yes. I would like to know how the first sewing machine ever got to the Indians, but I believe I.... R: So would I. But I'll tell you--it was Mary Brickell, probably. K: I think I have also read something about the salesman from the sewing machine companies going out and soliciting business, but it must have been an interesting thing, and I..., R: No, the interesting thing to me, or my justification is Indians off in there, in the Big Cypress and whatnot, don't wear this stuff. K: What do they wear? R: Blue shirts and dungarees. K: And the women? R: Oh, blouses and skirts of some description, But actually, the young women wear blouses and dungarees, I remember in the 1920s when we would see them in town--and I think we saw them more in town then when we first came--they said in effect by the costumes and those beautiful blouses the Indian women wore, and the skirts and the shirts of the men, "We are Indians!" And nobody put 'em down, or made 'em sit in the back of the bus, or gave 'em any trouble, K: That's interesting, because I remember as a child seeing 'em on Flagler Street in downtown Miami, but I never really thought at the time what their general acceptance was, and what they came to town for, and how the people acted toward them. R: They probably came to town to work in a parking lot. There were more of them working in the parking lots then than there are now, K: Let's go back to that a minute. You know we talked about the Indians that did come to town, and what they did or do, and