RC: Yes. E: You do not get much for them in the summer, do you? Are they hard to catch? RC: That is right. E: And they are smaller. What size net do you use in the summertime to start off with? RC: About an inch and a half. E: That is a three-inch mesh? RC: That is mostly the mesh we all depend on. E: How many nets do you have to own to fish mullet? How many sizes? RC: Four. E: What season do you have to put the biggest nets on? Roe season? RC: Yes. Trouble of it is, there are not many roe fish left. E: They did not do too good this year. Do you think it is the same amount of fish being taken? Is it just being divided up by a lot more boats? RC: No. These mullet raise up these rivers and canals and places like that. They stopped the commercial fishermen from going up there. You cannot fish up these canals anymore. All of these canals have houses all along there. These people have these cast nets, and soon as the sun goes down [they go down] there with their cast nets and catch themselves three or four mullet. The others up there will do the same thing. They all do that, and it ends up to be a whole lot of fish. E: Well, there are a lot more of them than commercial fishermen. RC: That is what I say. You do not catch them because it is at night, and it is pretty hard to catch them. How are you going to catch them? It is all right to use cast nets, but you cannot use a mullet net up there. E: Do they still get together in big pods and run out, or are they kept pretty much scattered by all the boats and little backwater boats? 15