going to school at Punta Blanca before it burned up over there. E: Was Tarvia a fish ranchero? Did he run one of the fish rancheros? Did he smoke the mullet on the beach or buy it? RC: It was salted. They told me the way they did it. They would get these mangrove poles and put about six of them together about twenty-five feet high. Then they put a tarp over the top of them. They would put a fellow in it. If he saw a bunch of mullet down there he would start waving a sheet or something. Then another one up here would see it. They had a lot of things. He would see it, and the other one would wave it. They would be down there somewhere with a seine. They would haul all of these fish ashore, see. I have an idea (I do not know for sure) that five thousand pounds of mullet would have been a hell of a lot of mullet back in those days. I do not know how much they could haul, but they would get a schooner load and take it to Cuba and sell them. They would split them and take them back to their ranches. E: They would salt them? RC: Dry salt them. E: Would they burn them off, too? RC: No. E: Just dry salt them and stack them in drums? RC: Yes. E: Who were the people that caught the fish? RC: Well, he had a crew there that would catch the fish, old man Tarvia Padilla. I do not think he had twenty or twenty-five men. E: He did not do the fishing himself? RC: Not a whole lot. He was a boss. He would see if they were split and all of that. E: That crew that he had: were there Seminole Indians? RC: No, I do not think. They were mostly Spanish or Cubans. They would put them in these schooners and take them to Cuba. They would trade a lot of them for whiskey and provisions. 11