government. You were not supposed to get in there, but we did. Perry Macadial was our quarantine master. That was right there at North Point. A little bit or right at that there was rock on the bottom, cocquina rock. They are all about gone now; there are only a few left there. Then going south, on Cayo Costa Island, there are some mangroves. It used to be they made a big cove in there. At one time--way back there in 1910, at Useppa Island, before you got to Pelican Pass, where we go in at--there was a separate pass there that you could go right in Pelican Bay. Old Place Hole is what they called it. Old Place Hole has about twenty feet of water in it in places. You could go right in through there. We always went in that way. Then finally it filled in there, and it broke through there at Pelican Pass and went around the other way, right where Deadman's Key broke in, right up there. If I had a map, I could probably show you. Old man Padilla, Tarvia Padilla, came to this country, but how in the hell he ever came here I will never know. He was from the Canary Islands. The old lady was from Mexico. E: She was not Spanish; she was Mexican. What was her name? RC: I'll be damned if I know. Old Gribsteen could tell you, because he went over there to Mexico, and he found traces of her in that Catholic Church. But to find out when she left there and all about it he would had to have stayed there three months, and he did not have the time. Mexico would not let him in the Catholic Church. But he went over there to trace it. E: Do you think the Padillas are the oldest family on Cayo Costa? RC: As far as I know they were the oldest. E: There were supposedly some people over there working for the Cuban fishermen, the Cuban rancheros, as early as the seventeenth century. RC: Well, there could have been. E: Maybe they only come around here during mullet season; maybe they were only there in the winter. RC: No, that could have been. It is hard to know. Old man Tarvia Padilla ran that big mullet business. He lived at the north end of Cayo Costa on that bayou. Tarvia Bayou is what they call it. None of the Padillas want to talk much about it. Nell Adams's father, John Padilla, was the last one to be buried there. He was buried there in the 1930s. 4