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 a phone call from one of our doctoral students who had just graduated three years ago

 and he was just appointed acting provost of one of the campuses of Broward Community

 College this week so some people are getting ahead very rapidly as a matter of fact.

 So (t some matter of pride to see that happening to. As far as nationwide is con-

 cerned, I have been able to spend a good deal of time working with colleges all over

 the countryas a matter of fact I guess'je been in some probably thirty-five or forty

 of the fifty states, at one time or another. In the class I am teaching this summer,

 each student has a project in which he takes one state and examines their system of

 higher education and makes an analysis of the program in that state for higher education.

 And there are twenty people in the class and I was interested in noting last night as

 I was looking over the group that I have worked in every one of the twenty states so

 I really had not counted all this up but I suspect that it is somewhere near thirty-

 five or forty states I have had some chance to work in and probably somewhere in the

 neighborhood of 300 or 400 community colleges around the country. So that gives me

 a lot of opportunity to work in lots of different places in lots of different ways.

 We do a lot of long range planning. I work with people from ...e.t-.re fm

 ,Laa. gratIre g ~ ._.o-- Pennsylvania State University, Florida

 State University, and University of Arizona and several other people that we get to

 see quite often and these kinds of opportunities to work with individual colleges

 around the country.

A: Discussing now the unique relationship between the local areas of the state in relation

 to funding and control.

J: Since our original program in Florida was heavily-oriented toward local control and

 to a great degree local support, although the minimum foundation program in Florida

 which was applied to the community colleges had 75 per cent of it was state funds

 really from the beginning. When they moved in 1968 to total state support, there were

 many who feared this meant the end of local control and this probably may be the

 reason \ that everybody is sensitive about this because they feared that this IS