R: Yes, we do.

P: Do you think the lottery made an impact at Santa Fe?

R: For about two years before the legislature began offsetting it by reductions. The first
 couple of years of the lottery truly was enhancement money. Oh yes, it was
 marvelous. Then, about the third year you began to see that really what you were
 getting was what you used to get from the general revenues, you know.

P: It all amounted to the same thing.

R: Yes. I think if the legislature had stuck to what it said, it would have been
 marvelous. But you know how it is, it does not happen.

P: You were recognized in Gainesville with a community service award for all of these
 wonderful things that you had done.

R: That was very nice.

P: [That was in] 1989.

R: The nice thing was, five faculty members nominated me. That was nice.

P: The ones you knew? [Laughter]

R: Well, a couple that had been avid union people, really.

P: That was a wonderful thing to have happened, and I understand that you had already
 been recognized in Fort Myers earlier as an outstanding citizen.

R: I am happy to say that once, down here, the Civitan Club, which gave such an award,
 gave it to me, and a couple of years later [from] the American Legion I received the
 same award.

P: So you received it twice, as the citizen of the year for public service to the
 community. Does that not sound good?

R: Sounds very nice.

P: Very nice. I would like to ask you about your decision to retire from Santa Fe.
 What brought all of that on?

R: First of all, I did not retire until I was sixty-eight, so it is not like I did it early.

P: And you have been there awhile.


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