P: Is that the Rosenberg property [local Starke family]? R: Yes. P: At the other end of Call Street, is it? R: Right. P: I saw that; it is beautiful. R: It has become just a wonderful thing. It has helped to revitalize a lot of that area. P: It has. All you need to do is find somebody to run the stores. I was on the review committee for the national register when that came up and I was chairman of it when we put it on the national [register], but we did raise the question, "Are we putting this on with all those empty stores?" So it has been very successful? R: Yes. P: Well attended? R: Yes. But, again, to this day, it does not come anywhere near meeting the state requirements to get money to build a campus. P: But does it offer a full curriculum, the regular basic subjects and the vo-tech subjects? R: No. Not the vo-tech. It is pretty much an arts and science program although we do have a nice computer lab. We do offer a couple of basic technical courses, maybe biology. P: But students could get an A.A. degree there? R: You might have to come down to Santa Fe for one semester to put together three or four things before you get up there to finish off. P: Do you have a good minority representation there? R: Yes, because of [Guy Andrews's] scholarship effort. P: Tell me about the train station in Gainesville. R: A couple a years before that happened, I said, "Portia, I would really like to have a center that would make it easier for black students, and black adults to come and take classes. We try all we can. We offer financial aid, etc., but I know for some people, the mere fact of the location may be great trouble." 126 -