R: Yes. And you get a check that I think we gave halfway through it, because those
 things only ran about eight weeks.

P: And they are very minimal amounts that the instructor gets. So it was really a labor
 of love in those days.

R: That is what it was. Most of the instructors did it for fun. There were a few. There
 were some people that taught dance every night and wound up making a couple
 hundred bucks, whatever it was.

P: Not a week? For eight weeks. They were not going to get rich off of what they did
 there.

R: No.

P: Nobody, the adjuncts and none of these people, get any fringe benefits, no medical
 coverage or anything like that.

R: No.

P: Well, you offer a huge number of community courses. I am always hearing people
 are taking golf and doing all of these wonderful things out there.

R: Sam, I repeat, that program was recognized a couple of times as the best program
 in the state, and finally, we quit submitting ours. Then, we did get the national
 award one year for the most outstanding community education program in the
 country.

P: Alan, I want you to talk about the Starke project, how that all developed. That is
 a story unto itself, but I do not want to lose it.

R: That is the most fabulous thing that ever occurred. Guy Andrews, God love him,
 was [instrumental].

P: Who was he?

R: He was, as you know, on our board for seventeen years. He was a gentleman who
 was, after the war, clerk of the court or something like that in Bradford County, and
 he became very wealthy developing shopping centers. He started out building a little
 one in Starke, then somehow he got to know the Davis brothers.

P: These are the Winn Dixie Davis brothers?

R: Yes. Right after the war, somehow, when they were just beginning to grow, I guess
 he met A.D. Davis and his brothers. At least, he got to know one of them and
 worked with them on a particular [development], maybe it was in Starke. They hit
 it off. They would say to him, "Guy, if you find another good piece of land

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