salaries up, then, while I may not like it, we might do that for another 5 percent or so." They never, ever wanted to do that. P: Who makes the decision on what is taught? I know there is certain basic things like math and literature and so on, but the esoteric kinds of things. Is this because a faculty person has a special qualification? "I can teach Russian history, let me do it." R: No. We were a little bit more restrictive there because first of all, we were trying to (a) be somewhat efficient. We said, first we have to man all of the classes we have to man, to teach the required courses for the kids to pass. P: Required courses. Now, who makes that decision of what is required? R: Usually it would come out of a series of meetings. P: Not from Tallahassee. R: Not so much from Tallahassee. P: Tallahassee did not say, "You have to teach two years of math." R: Except for Senator [Jack D.] Gordon who would tell you how much English to teach. P: Did they say you had to teach a foreign language in order to get an A.A. degree? R: I think, when the universities required it, then we did too, yes. So we had certain amounts of pressure. P: So you had some sort of pressure. R: Then again, within faculty interest, we wanted to offer pretty good choices, if it is American history, that sort of thing. But there would be occasions when a faculty member would say, "I would like to take a course in ." I would say, "Fine." P: "State and local government," for instance, "and I am qualified to teach it." R: Yes. "Go ahead and do that." P: You would ask the question, "Is there going to be any student response to this?" R: Yes. Where we controlled a lot was we would say, "We will try that, but if you do not get fifteen students, we will cancel it." P: I understand. Who makes the decision on the courses that you offer the community? Golf and genealogy and Spanish, and so on? 122-