semester fee. The colleges fought it, everybody fought it. To the rest of us around
 the country, we thought it was silly.

P: In the way of salaries, it is my impression that the salaries paid to faculty, certainly
 to assistant professors and so on, in the community colleges is higher than it is in
 the senior universities, [that] comparably speaking, a man is better off salary-wise at
 Santa Fe than he would be at the University of Florida.

R: Sam, I would think that was probably not true.

P: Not true?

R: Not true.

P: I am talking about a beginning teacher, not one that has built up tenure.

R: What would you guesstimate to be a young history person's starting salary?

P: Well, right now, we would start a young person coming out with a Ph.D. at about
 $28,000.

R: Well, with a Ph.D. at Santa Fe you probably would start, I would suspect, at $30,000
 or $32,000. I think when I left, probably a person with a bachelor's degree would
 start at, at least, $25,000; then we jumped up, a master's degree would have been
 $1,500 more, and master's plus thirty [credit hours in a field] would have been still
 more money. I would suspect you are right, a Ph.D. would start with a little bit
 more than that.

P: I have a former student who is teaching at Hillsborough Community College [Tampa,
 Florida] and who turned down an offer to teach at [University of] South Florida
 [Tampa, Florida] because he would have to take a salary cut.

R: Well, you know, that may be true. I know it is not true when you get into the
 Business college, etc.

P: I know. Those are the exceptions.

R: But I think maybe [with] the basic classes, we might do a little bit better. Now,
 obviously, we top out. We may top out at $44,000 or $45,000.

P: I understand. I am talking about down here.

R: Yes.

P: What percentage of your faculty at Santa Fe were adjuncts?

R: We had a relatively small percent compared to most colleges.

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