R: Now, I do not think so. I think what happens now, Sam, is everybody realizes that
 not getting into the University of Florida does not mean [the end of the road]. I
 think in the beginning the idea you did not get in [was embarrassing].

P: [It] meant you were not qualified.

R: But people now understand.

P: It is the numbers.

R: The point you made. There are now 15,000 applications, all of whom are qualified.

P: Right.

R: You are probably looking at 1,150 or 1,200 for your average SAT [Scholastic
 Aptitude Test] score. That is almost Ivy League.

P: I think 1,160 was what I heard [as the average score] for this last freshman class.

R: See, there are a lot of bright kids that score 1,100 and 1,120 and 1,050, right? So
 we benefit from that, too. I think what the kids see is [that] not only do they want
 to go to the University of Florida, but if they are there [at the community college]
 for two years, they learn the ins and outs, and they find out exactly what
 prerequisites they need.

 We help them with that, of course, on the computer, but then they know it from
 talking to their friends. They also know that, "Okay, maybe I cannot get into the
 College of Architecture, but I can get in into the College of Arts and Sciences, and
 then I will start working towards getting into the College of Architecture." There is
 so much to be gained from being there.

P: Getting back to the relationship and the cooperation, what is the relationship
 between the libraries? Are your students fully able to use the University library,
 interlibrary loan, that sort of thing? Faculty, let me [rephrase], because it is faculty
 that would be interested in interlibrary loan.

R: Yes. In fact, it went so far as for our students in the paralegal program [getting]
 permission to use the law library. There was a tremendous amount of cooperation,
 Sam. I do not know if there was a blanket approval for all of our students to the
 University library, but I think any time you needed anything, the two libraries had
 a very good relationship.

P: Well, you have got a good librarian, June Littler. She used to work for me.
 [Laughter] She was my student assistant there for a while. You said something also
 that intrigued me, you said something about an endowment board. M. M. Parrish
 was on an endowment board; what is that?

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