P: Do any of the buildings carry names? R: We never ever did that. It is F building, A building, B building, C building, D building. P: Was there any resistance to that? Did the Board want to name buildings? R: No. See, one thing we did not want to get into was the idea of naming building X for this board chairman, and building Y for that board chairman, and building C for someone else. We thought we did not want to get into that. P: That may come eventually. R: That might come eventually. P: Is that true on other campuses? R: No, no. A lot of other campuses are into naming buildings, and sometimes you wonder why. P: Do you name any of the facilities within the buildings, the auditorium, the art gallery? R: No, nothing. P: Nothing is named? R: Well, there is one exception. When Joe [Fordyce] died, we named the student services building the Fordyce building, but nobody refers to it as that. It just did not happen. P: It is officially named that. R: There is a lovely plaque on there which says, "In honor of," yes. P: Are you satisfied with the campus in terms of the buildings? Are they commodious and the offices fine and the classrooms satisfactory? R: Yes. Very satisfactory. And the most satisfying thing, I guess, about my tenure there, was the fact that that campus is clean. It is well-kept. You do not see any trash. There is no garbage. We worked hard on that from the very beginning. Everybody knew how I felt about that. I would walk around the campus a lot, I would go into the bathrooms. I would go into any bathroom at any time, and everybody knew about that. The grounds crew knew about that, the clean-up crew, everybody knew. 99 -