R: Yes. P: You left the Hippodrome? R: Exactly. And almost immediately, we were too small. P: So the Hippodrome really was the first facility. R: Correct. P: Because you had the administrative offices long before you had the classes. R: About a year and half, I would guess, maybe two [years]. P: That is two campuses, or two [facilities]. R: Then, about that time, I was too busy and I resigned from the board. P: Oh, you did? R: Now this was after we were up and running and started and everything was going pretty good. P: And when you left the board, they just had the one campus, the Buchholz campus? R: I think so. We might have been in negotiation for the Hotel Thomas during that period. P: Which is now the Thomas Center in northeast Gainesville. R: That is right. I think that this [arrangement] might have been either under way, or just consummated, or something like that. That was the next move, into that facility. P: What other sites has it [Santa Fe Community College] had before it moved out to where it is now? R: We then leased a major warehouse out on 23rd Avenue. P: Now, you use the word "we," were you not off the board by this time? R: Sam, that is just habit, [but] yes, I was. P: So that comes after you leave? R: In fact, I am not sure that that might have come after I came back. [It was] in 1967 when I stepped down. 84 -