R: Yes he did. I am trying to think what triggered all of this, whether or not there was
 some sort of an opportunity for some matching money somewhere. Obviously, I
 think the museum cost more than that.

P: Oh, it cost a lot more than $750,000.

R: I think that was the gap. We got some state money, and some federal money, and
 this is what was left. I think that was what it was.

P: You had no input, no involvement in the selection of an architect, or the design, or
 any of that kind of activity related to the museum?

R: No. I was strictly working to raise the money so that we could have the museum.
 Now, one of the battles that we were involved in was where it should be located, and
 I did not want it to be located there. I said, "Now, we have said that this is going
 to be something for the people and we are putting it where (a) you cannot get to it,
 and (b) there is no place to park." But we lost that battle.

P: Where did you want it?

R: I wanted it somewhere on Thirteenth Street.

P: So it would be more accessible.

R: That is right. And where there would be parking.

P: Where there is no such place.

R: Well, we discussed a number of sites in those days, and there were a couple of others
 that seemed to me to be a lot more [appropriate]. But it had to do with the idea
 of the "academic function." It had to be closer to the libraries, and this thing, and
 that thing, and the students and faculty, and so on and so forth. I am not sure that
 was all wrong.

P: It is very accessible to school children, [but] I do not see many students wandering
 around.

R: We were telling everybody we are going to build this, and to come to Gainesville and
 see it. The whole idea was that this will be where the people of the state of Florida
 can come and see what great history the state has and all of the things we have got.

P: How long did you remain in this position as director of development?

R: I think five years.

P: You were responsible to and you reported to the president?

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