R: No. That is what I said. And they really thought I was crazy.

P: So they said, "My God!" too.

R: Yes. Then they decided that they would take this on. I am trying to remember now
 the other members of the committee.

P: Was M. M. Parrish [chairman of the board of Parrish and Associates] on the
 committee?

R: You know, I want to say yes, but I cannot remember. The person I remember most
 is S. T. [Dell] who really stepped forward.

P: And S. T. Dell was the son-in-law to Senator Shands, married to Elizabeth.

R: Right. And I think we got a few of the wives involved, but somewhere in the records
 back there, there must be something about all of this. But I do remember, Sam, that
 the way in which we went about doing it, I think, was to have this very nice dinner
 gathering in support of the museum. I think we charged $200 a plate. Again, an
 astronomical [amount].

P: This was a fundraiser?

R: Yes, a fundraiser. And that was the kick-off, and then, of course, we worked to raise
 [more] money. My memory is that we either made the $200,000 or came so close
 to it.

P: You mention S. T. Dell, and I asked you about M. M. Parrish; can you think of any
 of the local names that would be [included]? Ralph Cellon [land developer, rancher,
 and Gainesville politician]?

R: I just cannot remember who the prime movers were now, I just cannot.

P: Now, the people that I am asking about were the people who were involved in the
 fundraising for the museum. They would not have been the same group who made
 up the initial foundation board?

R: Two or three of them, probably, because I think the board had three or four
 Gainesville members, and I am sure all of them were involved.

P: If you can remember, talk a little bit about the activities of the foundation board.
 You met, how did you communicate, what did you do?

R: Well, everybody used to come to Gainesville. It was strictly a business meeting,
 there was nothing social about it. So I talked with Dr. Reitz to talk with some of
 the people on the board. I think probably the one thing I did introduce was the idea

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