P: So Mr. Fagan was a good friend. And you come back now to the chamber at the
 increased salary. Any additional responsibilities?

R: No.

P: Has the chamber grown during that interval?

R: Yes, the chamber has grown.

P: As a result of Fort Myers' growth. Where was it in terms of population and that
 kind of thing.

R: I am guessing that probably the city [had] maybe 30,000 [inhabitants] and the county
 [had] maybe just over 100,000.

P: You had compared it with Alachua County, and that is about the comparison now
 we talking about.

R: Yes.

P: Alachua County today has [a population of] over 100,000, but when you leave
 Gainesville and Alachua County and come here [to Lee County], comparatively
 speaking, it is about the same [size].

R: Yes.

P: Were there any educational facilities here yet?

R: No.

P: Edison [Community College at Fort Myers] has not yet started either?

R: No.

P: What was your job as the director or executive secretary, whatever it was, of the
 chamber when you come back on the scene?

R: Well, again, of course, Pittsburgh [baseball team] was training here.

P: It is already here?

R: Yes. They are here now and they have stayed. They have come to like it.

P: And you have reestablished your relationship with Mr. Rickey.



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