trucks and maintain them. They were just beginning to grow, just beginning to
 spread, and they were looking for a manager.

P: So they invite you to an interview in Jacksonville.

R: Right. After they talked with me, they said, "Well, you have a lot of educational
 background, while most of our people are bootstrap people. But we have a very fine
 manager in Orlando who is also a college man, so we are going to assign you to him
 for awhile to learn the business, and then we are going to give you an area to run.

P: So they have offered you a position?

R: They offered me a position. So I came back and talked to Mary, and again, she was
 not too excited about moving, but it was an [opportunity].

P: It would have meant moving to Jacksonville?

R: Yes. And the salary was $7,500 plus a car. They gave you a car. Well, I accepted,
 and I was getting ready to report, when I get a phone call. The man in Orlando has
 had a heart attack and obviously cannot take on this responsibility, so they were
 going to send me to Jacksonville, which was one of the big operations, to be trained
 there.

P: Well, they were going to send you to Jacksonville anyway. Was that not where you
 were going to move from Fort Myers?

R: No. That is where I went for the interview. I was going to move to Orlando where
 the college man was.

P: To be trained by him.

R: Right. Well, by this time I had announced that I was leaving, and all that sort of
 stuff.

P: You could not retract that.

R: I could not retract that, so I said, "Okay." We went to Jacksonville. Well, the fellow
 there what was his name Stan somebody, greets me with, "Well, I do not
 know what we are doing hiring silver-spoon guys like you. What we need are hard-
 boiled, tough, up-by-their-bootstraps kind of people, but they told me I got to train
 you, so I guess that is what I got to do."

P: What a welcome.

R: So I hung around Jacksonville, I think, for about six months working with Stan who
 had his hair cut like a marine, big fat cigar, hard boiled.


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