P: Of course, you had to get some furniture too. R: I will tell you what we had in the beginning. We had a bed for us, a bed for Barbara, a card table, and four chairs. P: Luxury living. R: With the passage of time, [we] added a chair here and there. I remember when we got a couch, that was a big deal. That is the way it was. P: Of course, everybody was living exactly the same way. Okay, tell me about the things you were doing on campus. What were you teaching? R: I taught the micro and the macro economics, the two freshman courses in economics, and I really did enjoy it. P: Who was chair of the economics department? R: Oscar [Edward] Heskin [professor of economics]. P: Who else was teaching economics at the time? R: John [Wesley] Kennedy [assistant professor of economics], and a little fellow named [Carl E.] Calahan [instructor in economics] who went on to the University of Alabama; Tex [Clifton] Oliver [assistant professor of business organization and operation], [Clement Harold] Clem Donovan [professor of public finance] was a senior professor, but he was not chairman yet; Elmo [Louis] Jackson [associate professor of economics]. They might have only taught one section of principles. P: But it was a growing department, and it was a growing enrollment at the University. R: In fact, we were all teaching in those barracks. P: Those temporaries, as they called them, that they brought in from Camp Blanding and other places. And I believe the building you would have taught in was just to the east of Language Hall, or now Anderson Hall. R: Yes. It was right there almost at the corner of the campus. P: Near Library East. Because that [building] stood for many years. That has only been demolished in the last ten or twelve years I guess. R: And our offices, Sam, were in a house across University Avenue. P: I know, those houses that belong to the University now. Tell me about the students. R: Many students were veterans. -23-