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 G: I played baseball with Ernest Patton. Ernest Patton's a fine fella.

 E: Yes and he was mail carrier over in your reservation.

 G: He carried mail here for many, many years. Ernest Patton carried mail
 through the reservation on a horse and buggy. Lots of times he'd
 stop at the houses. They would invite him in when he come by. Some-
 body's cooking dinner, have dinner on the table, and he happened up
 about that time with the mail. They'd pull him in the house and give
 him his dinner. He's eat dinner, he'd be on his way.

 E: Well, that's interesting.

 G: Because I don't think those people over there are like the other people
 think they are. They're a bunch of nice people. They'd give the shirt
 off their back, I believe, because I know this. Ernest Patton carried
 mail through there and they'd feed him. They'd give him something to
 eat. Dr. Hill, an old country doctor, lived down here at Catawba
 Junction. He spent many a night up here at the reservation in some
 of these homes. They'd make him a bed. He'd get in the bed and sleep.
 They'd give him his supper and breakfast. He'd be called up there like,
 you know, coming out late at night, he'd just spend thenight there.

E: Did he bring any of your children into the world?

G: No, ma'am.

E: Well, he can certainly be proud.

G: He was a doctor up here mostly amongst the Indians up here, right down
 around in there, too.

E: When someone becomes ill, how would you send a message to Dr. Hill?

G: Somebody'd just get on a horse and go down there and get him. Or they'd
 pass the word down so-and-so was sick up here and tell him who it was.

E: How did he travel, in a horse and buggy?

G: Horse and buggy or just ride horseback.

E: What's Dr. Hill look like?

G: He was kind of an old guy, from the first time I ever met him. He wore
 glasses but he was a good doctor to be a country doctor.

E: Now he was paid by the government. You all did not pay him.