5 E: Are most of those living now? G: Five boys and three girls are. E: Would you name the boys and girls off? G: Well, it's Howard George... E: He's in Rock Hill. G: ...in Rock Hill, and Charles is in Norfolk, Virginia, John's in Rock Hill, Wayne's in Rock Hill, Susan's in Rock Hill, is in Rock Hill, and JoAnne, she's in Williston, Texas. JoAnne Bowers married a Bowers, Florence Bowers from Georgetown. E: So then most of you are still around this area. How many grandchildren do you have now? G: Oh, boy. E: You can't count those. G: I think it's twenty-five. E: Twenty-five grandchildren. G: I'd have to start counting 'em. E: You've got a big family, I know. G: Yes. Oh, I have one more son, Philip. E: Where's Philip. G: He's in Key West, Florida. He's in the navy. E: When you were married you were doing this carpentry work, is that right? G: No, ma'am, I was working in a cotton mill, textile work. I didn't start carpenter work until about '48, somewhere along in there. E: Where did you and your wife live and raise that big family? G: I lived part-time down here on the reservation and biggest portion of the time in Rock Hill. I couldn't say just how many years down here or how many years in Rock Hill.