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B: Is that the columns here in Washington?

MB: This was in Kingsport. He was a poor lawyer where he was until I beset

 at the lawyers table because he was an Indian until after he married me

 and then they changed their lines right quick like and this is what I

 wanted but I had this dream that he would either be governor or a federal

 judge in which there's no question about whether he could be a federal

 judge when he leaves this office or not or what he would be. But you

 have to let a man lead his own fife.

B: Well, that's very interesting to hear that part of you course----

MB: You have to let a man be a man.

B: That's great. A man has to lift a woman to be a woman, right?

MB: Right.

B: Let each be each.

MB: Well, I wouldn't want to be a man. No, no, I wouldn't want to be a man.

B: Well, I'm glad you're not.

MB: Thank you sir.

B: What's good for the Commissioner is good for all of us. His many friends,

 ..., and you've been so influential in his life. Would you tell us some-

 thing before we get back to him, tell us something about your early life,

 where you attended school and things like this, things of the biographical

 nature, that you can remember at the moment?
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MB: Yes, I went to Vaundenfince High School and my father went to Milli~an

 College, so naturally I attended Millihan College as most of our family

 did. I didn't send my daughter to Millilan, I sent my daughter to

 Pembroke where her father went to school because it was more important.