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 nature and we didn't have anywhere for them to get it. And they began

 to complain about not having a supermarket then we felt that it was

 forced in order to keep the washer going we had to have a supermarket

 in order for them to browse around there and buy some of the small

 items and this was some of the things that created a supermarket.

I: I see. Uh, yodre a minister. Do you minister to any church regularly?

S: No, I'm superintendent of our conference. superintendent of the.

I: Which conference?

S: Superintendent of the Lumbee River Methodist Conference.

I: I.see. well, I imagine in doing all this work you got in a good many

 prayers too, didn't you reverand?

S: Yeah, we had to do that.

I: And that's always a good thing. uh,what do you envision for the future

 for the Lumbee Indian Shopping Center?

S: Well, we're actually what we're concentrating now is trying to build

 up an interest. more interest in people shopping at the shopping

 centers the Indian people especially. Then we can get them to see

 that we're definitely going to have enough support then we have some

 more planners. we're the ladies are beginning to complain about

 they need somewhere to buy their dresses and things of that nature.

 We don't have anything out here for the ladies in- the nothing line.

 And I think maybe perhaps that will be our next adventure whenever we

 ready to adventure some more.

I: Well, that's great. It doesn't take long talking to you to see that

 you're a sharp business man. And, uh, do you take part in civic ac-

 tivities too and all this I know your church work. your business.

 when do you find time to rest?