SUBJECT: R.M. BARTON

 INTERVIEWER: LEW BARTON





 S: And he just did hold on, and they thought the horse had went foolish,

 so they said he can ride a crazy horse, and that's how he got his name.

 That's one version. There's another version that says...he had this

 dream about wearing a...having a blue eagle...so he took a eagle and

 painted it blue...stuffed it and wore it in his hair, and he went into

 this place, and they had this real bad battle...and he just did make it.

 Then when he got back they psuedqgamed him,,tha after his father.

I: Um huh.

S: So the facts are hard to get really. It depends on who's writing and how

 they want it to come out.

I: I wonder what he's remembered most for?

S: Crazy Horse?

I: Um huh.

S: His fighting ability)I guess.

I: What do you think of uh...the Lumbee hero, Henry Barry Lowery?

S: Well, he was tough. He had a...see he had sense, horse sense, and he knew

 the swamp...and he was sort of like a backs wood Daniel Boone.

I: Um huh.

S: He knew all the trails and everything...cause whoever got after him he

 better know which way is north, and which way is south because you'd get

 all lost. Cause out in those swamps...it's so dark you can't hardly tell

 where the sun is at. And unless you know a little about woods and stuff.

 You can get out there in the middle and say,;,"Mow which way do I go from

 here?" You'd go one way, and homes in the other.


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